Trans-Snowflakes Megathread

Whine and Bitch about people long after they become interesting to talk about
User avatar
mad bum
Posts: 1205
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:15 pm
Location: In spoony's rape dungeon

Re: Trans-Snowflakes Megathread

Post by mad bum » Mon May 08, 2017 7:11 am

I can understand not liking jrpg's, but SMT is not like persona. Nocturne is about the world ending and how you plan to shape it, not like persona where it's high school teen stuff. I have yet to play P5 but it's getting rave reviews.

Now the vita is a weeb machine.
Dude, 5 moves, I'm sitting on your arm until it's snapping. But to each their own.

Image

VoiceOfReasonPast
Posts: 2693
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:33 pm

Re: Trans-Snowflakes Megathread

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Mon May 08, 2017 3:53 pm

Nocturne is so rad. And you don't even get the typical JRPG drama because the only permanent member of your party is the silent protagonist.

User avatar
rabidtictac
Posts: 2378
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:25 pm

Re: Trans-Snowflakes Megathread

Post by rabidtictac » Tue May 09, 2017 1:41 am

Nocturne: The world has ended, you're a demon now, you get to decide how to remake the world and which of several philosophical viewpoints aligns with your own. Those viewpoints, traditionally depicted as Chaos, Law etc, are given to you via several people you knew prior to the world's end. They, like you, have been transformed into demons. Your only companions in your journey are other demons you recruit, but this apocalypse world hasn't been so much destroyed as reborn. There's a new ecosystem, new economy, new towns and "people" living out their lives. Isn't it kind of fucked up to destroy all that just to remake a past that's already gone?

Just one of many questions the game asks.

Oh and, well before Nier came along, Nocturne had that twist about what happened to all the souls of the humans who died. I won't spoil more than that.

The combat in Nocturne is a thing of beauty. Flawless even by the usually high standards of SMT, and far superior to Persona. Exploit elemental weaknesses? You get more turns. Up to a max of 2 extra per character or 6 total. But the enemy can do the same thing to you! So it's a fast-paced system where you can easily get wiped if you fuck up.

Oh, and debuffs and buffs are probably the strongest skills in the fucking game, which is so strange for a JRPG. Fog Breath is one of the best moves in the entire game and almost a requirement for any main character "build."

The graphics were unmatched (combined with the art style) for when it came out and the system it was on. The music is phenomenal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQhgTN7bNH8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO6LWQhvzRw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmqbhyS-BK8

Nocturne is so fucking unique. Even compared to other SMT games. The closest other game to it is probably Digital Devil Saga (1 and 2 are technically a single, connected game.) It has the visual style, but the combat isn't exactly the same and it doesn't have the pokermans recruiting aspect.

User avatar
AdorableOtter
Posts: 150
Joined: Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:03 pm

Re: Trans-Snowflakes Megathread

Post by AdorableOtter » Tue May 09, 2017 3:51 am

SMT:Persona x is actually just Persona x in Japan. (Original Persona was named "Megami Ibunroku Persona" which roughly means "Hey guys, it's a bit different from (S)MT, don't get butthurt if it's not what you expected") The same thing goes for Digital Devil Saga.

I don't know why ATLUS decided to put "SMT" on every western release. Maybe they wanted to appeal to SMT3 fans? That kinda makes sense but it's a bit confusing and hard to tell what's the (spiritual) successor of original (S)MT.

User avatar
rabidtictac
Posts: 2378
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:25 pm

Re: Trans-Snowflakes Megathread

Post by rabidtictac » Tue May 09, 2017 5:13 am

Putting the SMT logo on every game just devalues it IMO. Sort of like how Resident Evil 2 and 3 share the same name with shit like RE5, RE6, Umbrella Chronicles and the Revelations games. If you enjoy RE2 and expect a similar experience from Revelations 2 or RE6, you'll be disappointed.

Persona is a much shallower experience overall and includes a lot of the otaku shit that wasn't in older SMT games. Digital Devil Saga was a spinoff, but it kept the dark, oppressive atmosphere of SMT3. Its mythology shit also arguably makes more sense because it seems to be (IIRC) all Hindu-themed rather than the usual grab bag of deities.

Guest

Re: Trans-Snowflakes Megathread

Post by Guest » Tue May 09, 2017 5:26 am

a usual grab bag of dieties and DANTE FROM THE DEVIL MAY CRY SERIES

User avatar
Poonoo
Site Admin
Posts: 887
Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:16 pm

Re: Trans-Snowflakes Megathread

Post by Poonoo » Tue May 09, 2017 5:37 am

rabidtictac wrote:
Tue May 09, 2017 5:13 am

Persona is a much shallower experience overall and includes a lot of the otaku shit that wasn't in pretty much anything from Japan pre-2001.
Fixed. WTF happened to Japan?

User avatar
Some Sick Fuck
Posts: 689
Joined: Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:10 am

Re: Trans-Snowflakes Megathread

Post by Some Sick Fuck » Tue May 09, 2017 8:23 am

And here I thought you were talking about Nocturne, which is a different, rather obscure game, which made me happy that people here have some taste. Then of course I've realized you are just talking about another japanese game...
Image

User avatar
Kugelfisch
Posts: 2744
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:36 pm

Re: Trans-Snowflakes Megathread

Post by Kugelfisch » Tue May 09, 2017 2:01 pm

rabidtictac wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 4:14 am
I figured you'd hate it just for that second reason and no other.
When they realize they are just Wizardry but worse they can be okay. But as soon that whole teenager faggotry that nips love so much comes into play you've lost me.
Hail Eris, all hail Discordia!
VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:50 pm
Always two, there are. No more, no less. A Spoony and a Cuckson.

User avatar
Le Redditeur
Posts: 362
Joined: Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:58 pm

Re: Trans-Snowflakes Megathread

Post by Le Redditeur » Tue May 09, 2017 2:12 pm

Japanime games are superior to the countless Western first-person clones, though.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: pibbs, suzaku and 10 guests