That's the thing with these 70-year leases, it's all just speculation, no one knows for sure what will happen after the leases expire. The CCP allows the owners to renew their leases just like that? It was all just some extra unnecessary bureaucracy? Yes, I'll believe it when I see it. I've talked with some Chinese about this issue and they generally tend to have this childlike positive attitude towards everything their communist overlords decide, not a big deal to them, just some little paperwork after 70 years and all live happily ever after. I myself don't believe anything the CCP says.Just Some Random Guy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:15 pmAfter doing some research, it seems that after 70 years, you can renew the lease; in fact, the local governments are apparently required to allow a renewal of the lease. What's uncertain right now is exactly what process that would undergo to renew, and how much (if anything) someone would have to pay to renew it. Supposedly clearer guidelines are being worked on. As the leases started being given in the 1990's, though, the 70-year leases won't be expiring for another 40-50 years.veris leta facies wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:31 amChina has come far from the traditional Marxism-Leninism, but it's still legit to call it a communist state. For instance you can't really own anything in there, when you buy a property you'll only get a 70 year lease. What happens to your property after 70 years? Who knows.Just Some Random Guy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:10 amChina is communist in name only at this point.
Oh, China certainly isn't anything close to democratic. But what you describe are general traits of a dictatorship, including those that aren't communist. And at this point, China doesn't have total control over economy, or at least isn't exerting full control, as the Chinese economy has become increasingly privatized as well as there being dramatically increased foreign investment. I'm not saying there isn't plenty of government control of the economy, but there's too much privatization in my view to properly call it communist or even communist-ish.Also, their corrupted totalitarian 1-party regime with total control over economy, media and military, that's very communismish.
I suppose China does have complete control over the economy in that, if they wanted, they could step in and control anything, but that's really true of any dictatorship, communist or not.
Communism isn't just a form of economic system, it is also a form of society with the centralized political rule of a communist party. Not all dictatorships are communist, but all communist systems are dictatorships.