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Re: MGTOW getting as annoying as Feminism

Post by Kugelfisch » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:09 am

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Lauren found him because like Shoe she is butthurt that MGTOW won't like her for simply being a woman with anti-feminist opinions.
I'd wife and fuck her hard. She doesn't even realize yet what a conservative household is but I'd show it to her. No more walking around with a microphone and shit. Bear children, tend to the kids, keep the house in check. They talk a big game but wouldn't be able to live that life in reality. They lack the fortitude and can't handle the responsibility.
They say that behind every strong man there stands a strong women. I agree. Too bad women much rather like to be worthless cunts these days.
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Re: MGTOW getting as annoying as Feminism

Post by kanarisblog » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:22 pm

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One of them called Barbarosa flat out said that when MGTOW gets more popular they will attract more idiots a few years back. The main problem is that many of these newer ones are closeted traditionalists who just want a virgin to marry which is why they slut shame so much. Actual MGTOWs would give no fucks about this, since the whole point is to not get married, be a bachelor and be independent, so women being more down to fuck would actually benefit them. MGTOWs are very anti-traditional and think that it is actually worse for men since women today would just sit on their fucking ass all day at home after the kids are in school while the man has to slave away, but these new MGTOWs actually want this.

MGTOWs have always hated women though and are extremely distrusting of them, but it wasn't because they were bitter traditionalists.
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This.

I spent a long time looking deep into the MGTOW spergewell. There are a lot of different groups. The problem is that, like all manosphere movements, it attracts scammers. I consider them more of a problem than the spergelord mgtow and annoying genderswap nufeminist style mgtow.

At its worst, MGTOW is just a gender-swapped Tumblr feminism. OR it goes the hard right traditionalist way of just wanting a girlfriend-free virgin, which leads into glorifying "le foreign women" just like the fucking PuAs do.

BTW foreign women aren't any different than women in any other place. People are people. These idiot PuAs marry their perfect foreign waifu and then find out that she becomes feminist when she's suddenly living in the first world west. :lol: They blame feminism for that, but what the hell did they expect?

A lot of traditionalists latched onto MGTOW because MGTOW hate feminists and so do traditionalist right-wingers. But the two groups imo are not compatible. Traditionalists want wives and traditional family units. MGTOW want to be solitary and find DTF women for casual relationships.

The mgtow *way of living*, quite apart from their dumb ideology of reverse-patriarchy, is already prevalent everywhere, among young people of all ages. Young people are walking away from marriage and kids, and we can thank shitty boomer parents for that lel.

So if we judge a movement on the success of its "lifestyle" then mgtow has been a massive success. If we judge it on the success of spreading its ideology, then it's a failure found only on the fringe internet. But if we judge "ideology" more loosely, we could perhaps say that the general antipathy towards marriage and the feelings many men have towards modern feminism and tumblr-type women have spread.

Even years ago, I was saying that I noticed a lot of MGTOW beliefs appearing in guys who had no idea what MGTOW was and had never heard of it. People react and form opinions based on their experiences and that's all MGTOW was originally.

Oh and white nationalists have no place in MGTOW because MGTOW was fucking founded by black dudes in the '90s who were pissed off at black women being cunty and demanding.
MGTOW and faggots like you are just as much a problem as second/third wave feminists. I always found it funny about MGTOW types in their animosity towards the fabled "tradcon" (assuming they still exist in noticeable numbers and assuming wanting a wive who does wife shit is tradcon). Trads have no time for MGTOW and MGTOW like their feminist counterparts deny biology and thousands of years of precedent and assume "muh futurism and robots" is going to solve that. Well, enjoy the decline retards, the new fall of Rome is going to be way shittier.

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Re: MGTOW getting as annoying as Feminism

Post by Liar Revealed » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:38 pm

Traditionalism will return, but in a new form. The Islamic invasion will see to that.
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Re: MGTOW getting as annoying as Feminism

Post by Poonoo » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:55 pm

kanarisblog wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:22 pm
Poonoo wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:52 pm
One of them called Barbarosa flat out said that when MGTOW gets more popular they will attract more idiots a few years back. The main problem is that many of these newer ones are closeted traditionalists who just want a virgin to marry which is why they slut shame so much. Actual MGTOWs would give no fucks about this, since the whole point is to not get married, be a bachelor and be independent, so women being more down to fuck would actually benefit them. MGTOWs are very anti-traditional and think that it is actually worse for men since women today would just sit on their fucking ass all day at home after the kids are in school while the man has to slave away, but these new MGTOWs actually want this.

MGTOWs have always hated women though and are extremely distrusting of them, but it wasn't because they were bitter traditionalists.
rabidtictac wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:54 am

This.

I spent a long time looking deep into the MGTOW spergewell. There are a lot of different groups. The problem is that, like all manosphere movements, it attracts scammers. I consider them more of a problem than the spergelord mgtow and annoying genderswap nufeminist style mgtow.

At its worst, MGTOW is just a gender-swapped Tumblr feminism. OR it goes the hard right traditionalist way of just wanting a girlfriend-free virgin, which leads into glorifying "le foreign women" just like the fucking PuAs do.

BTW foreign women aren't any different than women in any other place. People are people. These idiot PuAs marry their perfect foreign waifu and then find out that she becomes feminist when she's suddenly living in the first world west. :lol: They blame feminism for that, but what the hell did they expect?

A lot of traditionalists latched onto MGTOW because MGTOW hate feminists and so do traditionalist right-wingers. But the two groups imo are not compatible. Traditionalists want wives and traditional family units. MGTOW want to be solitary and find DTF women for casual relationships.

The mgtow *way of living*, quite apart from their dumb ideology of reverse-patriarchy, is already prevalent everywhere, among young people of all ages. Young people are walking away from marriage and kids, and we can thank shitty boomer parents for that lel.

So if we judge a movement on the success of its "lifestyle" then mgtow has been a massive success. If we judge it on the success of spreading its ideology, then it's a failure found only on the fringe internet. But if we judge "ideology" more loosely, we could perhaps say that the general antipathy towards marriage and the feelings many men have towards modern feminism and tumblr-type women have spread.

Even years ago, I was saying that I noticed a lot of MGTOW beliefs appearing in guys who had no idea what MGTOW was and had never heard of it. People react and form opinions based on their experiences and that's all MGTOW was originally.

Oh and white nationalists have no place in MGTOW because MGTOW was fucking founded by black dudes in the '90s who were pissed off at black women being cunty and demanding.
MGTOW and faggots like you are just as much a problem as second/third wave feminists. I always found it funny about MGTOW types in their animosity towards the fabled "tradcon" (assuming they still exist in noticeable numbers and assuming wanting a wive who does wife shit is tradcon). Trads have no time for MGTOW and MGTOW like their feminist counterparts deny biology and thousands of years of precedent and assume "muh futurism and robots" is going to solve that. Well, enjoy the decline retards, the new fall of Rome is going to be way shittier.
MGTOWs don't deny biology at all. Recognising it is the reason they don't bother protesting like the MRAs do since they know people are naturally more protective of women but less empathic to men some women being alive is more valuable to the species. My main issue with them is that they are very defeatist and aren't adjusting their tactics to change the laws, just because the MRAs are incompetent doesn't mean you give up like a pussy. Feminists go after little boys and children too who people are more empathetic towards than adult women, play that angle and you will get angry mothers on your side who control the spending of entire families. No corporation will be dumb enough to pick single feminists over the spending power of a family and last long.

One thing you don't get is that there is no going back to traditionalism, technology killed it. Being a housewife 100 years ago was fucking work, with no washing machines, dishwashers, refrigerators, microwaves, vacuum cleaners and modern ovens along with other appliances doing housework was a full time job. That was the reason gender role existed despite feminists telling you it was men being evil slave owners, if a woman worked nothing would get done and no one would eat. This is why rich women were bigger supporters of feminism, they had by and maids do all that shit for them so they wanted to work.

The problem now is that women will be hired as shit at home and men will feel like their wife is a lazy freeloader. Women still want to spend more time with the kids and when less than men do which is why more of them with part time, but going back to ultra traditionalism simply won't work. You can fuel back the cunt feminist and man hating culture a bit but that is as far as it will go. A movement to get women to work was always going to happen because of technological advancement.
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Re: MGTOW getting as annoying as Feminism

Post by rabidtictac » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:00 pm

You can see the breakdown of the traditional home and the impossibility of returning when you look at gender-swaps on traditional gender roles nowadays. You think husbands think their wives are lazy freeloaders? Check out what happens when the roles reverse and the woman works while the man keeps home. The women get pissed off and feel the man is a freeloading bum. The relationships often break down completely. As the genders become more equal and the jobs become the same for both gender (and more machines make housework even easier,) men will slowly deprogram themselves from the idea that the woman's place is in a home and will see stay-at-home-wives as even lazier than they do now. We have only fomonism to thank for this. Thanks Andrea Dworkin. :lol:

Anyway yeah, machines have destroyed your traditional gender roles. Also the economy, because it's quite difficult to support a family on a single paycheck. That used to be very doable when factory jobs paid well.

mgtow don't deny biology at all. They just modify biology to suit the current environment because they know that crying about unfairness a la mras doesn't work. People don't care about the problems men have. At least not compared to women. And that's, again, down to biology.
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Re: MGTOW getting as annoying as Feminism

Post by Poonoo » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:46 pm

rabidtictac wrote:
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As the genders become more equal and the jobs become the same for both gender (and more machines make housework even easier,) men will slowly deprogram themselves from the idea that the woman's place is in a home and will see stay-at-home-wives as even lazier than they do now.
I forgot about that aspect of technology as well. Most jobs were physical labour for a long ass time, and if you look at the job market today most physical labour jobs are extremely male dominated since women physically aren't suited for it. In those times when nearly all jobs were like that, why bother getting a job as a woman? But when white collar work grew as jobs become more sedentary women were more able to work as well.

Traditionalism made way more sense when technology was shit. Tradcons can't wrap their heads around that with most of the men being insecure pseudo-alphas who want to feel like a big man (and they don't realise many clever women can manipulate you with that mentality) and the women being lazy cunts who want to sit on their ass on Facebook all day rather than contribute to the home. Modern tradcon women wouldn't survive a fucking day being a housewife 100 years ago.
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Also Lupa’s grandmother? Please, we know that hag was alive and well back then. She’s like the dude from Highlander, only a cunt.
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Re: MGTOW getting as annoying as Feminism

Post by Guest » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:24 am

Women stink. Kill them all.

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Re: MGTOW getting as annoying as Feminism

Post by Poonoo » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:23 am

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Women stink. Kill them all.
You've reached a power level beyond MGTOW, you must have swallowed 1000 red pills at least. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Also Lupa’s grandmother? Please, we know that hag was alive and well back then. She’s like the dude from Highlander, only a cunt.
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Re: MGTOW getting as annoying as Feminism

Post by Le Redditeur » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:40 pm

There's a Fabian quality to the MGTOW approach to life: avoid most conflicts with women since you just can't win under the current zeistgeist, pick only fights you can absolutely for sure win, and turn their approach against themselves.

It defeated the second greatest general of all time, it can defeat a bunch of rainbow-hair hambeasts.

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Re: MGTOW getting as annoying as Feminism

Post by MegaNigger » Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:34 pm

There's one guy I've seem more than a few videos from, TurdFlingingMonkey.

He constantly reiterates, "Just take women's rights away. They won't do shit to keep them. Give them 5 across the face. They need men to enforce their wills."

I mean. Hes not wrong, but that's just back to traditionalism if you ask me. Cause at that point, you're responsible for women again, and women are even worse and more useless than ever. That doesn't sound like a win. That sounds like bullshit. :lol:
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