rabidtictac wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:54 am
This.
I spent a long time looking deep into the MGTOW spergewell. There are a lot of different groups. The problem is that, like all manosphere movements, it attracts scammers. I consider them more of a problem than the spergelord mgtow and annoying genderswap nufeminist style mgtow.
At its worst, MGTOW is just a gender-swapped Tumblr feminism. OR it goes the hard right traditionalist way of just wanting a girlfriend-free virgin, which leads into glorifying "le foreign women" just like the fucking PuAs do.
BTW foreign women aren't any different than women in any other place. People are people. These idiot PuAs marry their perfect foreign waifu and then find out that she becomes feminist when she's suddenly living in the first world west.
They blame feminism for that, but what the hell did they expect?
A lot of traditionalists latched onto MGTOW because MGTOW hate feminists and so do traditionalist right-wingers. But the two groups imo are not compatible. Traditionalists want wives and traditional family units. MGTOW want to be solitary and find DTF women for casual relationships.
The mgtow *way of living*, quite apart from their dumb ideology of reverse-patriarchy, is already prevalent everywhere, among young people of all ages. Young people are walking away from marriage and kids, and we can thank shitty boomer parents for that lel.
So if we judge a movement on the success of its "lifestyle" then mgtow has been a massive success. If we judge it on the success of spreading its ideology, then it's a failure found only on the fringe internet. But if we judge "ideology" more loosely, we could perhaps say that the general antipathy towards marriage and the feelings many men have towards modern feminism and tumblr-type women have spread.
Even years ago, I was saying that I noticed a lot of MGTOW beliefs appearing in guys who had no idea what MGTOW was and had never heard of it. People react and form opinions based on their experiences and that's all MGTOW was originally.
Oh and white nationalists have no place in MGTOW because MGTOW was fucking founded by black dudes in the '90s who were pissed off at black women being cunty and demanding.