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Re: Telltale "Games"

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 2:32 pm
by Some Sick Fuck
Yeah, I hate that trope as well. They are afraid that it would ruin the mood, and break the fourth wall, as if you couldn't work with the word being pronouced by characters.

Re: Telltale "Games"

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 4:00 pm
by VoiceOfReasonPast
This is extra funny if the movie in question has a "This is how a zombie apocalypse would really turn out" vibe to it.

Though thankfully this trope isn't spreading to other genres. Can you imagine some alien invasion movie where everyone avoids saying "aliens?". Or a vampire flick where the word "vampire" is haram?

Re: Telltale "Games"

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 7:09 pm
by Charlar
VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Fri May 12, 2017 4:00 pm
This is extra funny if the movie in question has a "This is how a zombie apocalypse would really turn out" vibe to it.

Though thankfully this trope isn't spreading to other genres. Can you imagine some alien invasion movie where everyone avoids saying "aliens?". Or a vampire flick where the word "vampire" is haram?
Didn't they call the Aliens in the Alien series Xenomorphs?

Re: Telltale "Games"

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 7:23 pm
by VoiceOfReasonPast
True, but if I remember correctly, the term is only used in a briefing scene in Aliens. Though who knows, maybe the Alien Extended Universe is all about xenomorph this and xenomorph that.

And it is always nice and inclusive to give alien species a name. They have feelings, too.

Re: Telltale "Games"

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 11:08 pm
by Some Sick Fuck
Charlar wrote:
Fri May 12, 2017 7:09 pm
Didn't they call the Aliens in the Alien series Xenomorphs?
That's hardly the same, not even close. Alien is a general term, zombie is far more specific - also, alien is a franchise, but there are many, many other aliens featured in thousands of movies. So I'll cut them some slack with Xenomorphs, which I'm not even sure when they started to call them that, if they say that in Aliens, I can't remember either, I'm pretty sure it's not in first movie.

Re: Telltale "Games"

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 11:45 pm
by Charlar
Some Sick Fuck wrote:
Fri May 12, 2017 11:08 pm
Charlar wrote:
Fri May 12, 2017 7:09 pm
Didn't they call the Aliens in the Alien series Xenomorphs?
That's hardly the same, not even close. Alien is a general term, zombie is far more specific - also, alien is a franchise, but there are many, many other aliens featured in thousands of movies. So I'll cut them some slack with Xenomorphs, which I'm not even sure when they started to call them that, if they say that in Aliens, I can't remember either, I'm pretty sure it's not in first movie.
True but do they mention other aliens, i assume that's a possibility but i forgot

Re: Telltale "Games"

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 5:58 am
by VoiceOfReasonPast
Some Sick Fuck wrote:
Fri May 12, 2017 11:08 pm
That's hardly the same, not even close. Alien is a general term, zombie is far more specific - also, alien is a franchise, but there are many, many other aliens featured in thousands of movies. So I'll cut them some slack with Xenomorphs, which I'm not even sure when they started to call them that, if they say that in Aliens, I can't remember either, I'm pretty sure it's not in first movie.
Zombie might be more specific, but the pop culture incarnation of the zombie has effectively become a modern mythological creature, much like the more standardized modern versions of vampires and werewolves. You just don't have a decaying bloke either slowly shamble or run like crazy at you without thinking "zombie".

And to my knowledge, the term was used exclusive to the second movie, and in a somewhat awkward scene at that:

Ripley: "Something something Xenomoprhs something..."
Soldier: "The fuck is a Xenomorph?!"
Ripley: "That's the name of the alien critters. Xenomoprh. It's actually copyrightable I think,"
Soldier: "No way I'm gonna use that term!"
Ripley: "Fine with me!"

This is of course just paraphrasing, but the point is that they were more concerned with giving the aliens a name than to actually use said name.

It's actually a much tamer version of when Games Workshop went completely insane with Age of Sigmar and gave generic units retarded names to make them copyright-able. I think zombies are now called Deathwalkers.

Re: Telltale "Games"

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 8:58 am
by cernex
Some Sick Fuck wrote:
Fri May 12, 2017 11:08 pm
So I'll cut them some slack with Xenomorphs, which I'm not even sure when they started to call them that, if they say that in Aliens, I can't remember either, I'm pretty sure it's not in first movie.
It's the briefing scene, when Hudson (Bill Paxton, RIP :'C) asks if its going to be a "bug hunt". Instead of answering, Gorman says "A Xenomorph..." and Hudson says "it's a bug hunt."

Being fair, I love that movie, so I remember that.

BUT YES, they definitely call them that in Aliens.

Re: Telltale "Games"

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 2:01 pm
by Kugelfisch
Because it's the technical term for the aliens. It it not, however, used as a replacement term for all aliens, just for that specific species.
Unlike with zombies who are called something different wholesale, never even uttering the term zombie. Which is retarded and annoying because the replacement terms tend to be really stupid.
I'd be fine if they were to call them "undead". It works like calling the Xenomorph aliens as it's a blanket term. It would especially make sense if there weren't just zombies but also ghouls and maybe even liches.

Re: Telltale "Games"

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 3:12 pm
by VoiceOfReasonPast
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