Coalition of Cucks (MOBA Sperg)

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Re: Coalition of Cucks (MOBA Sperg)

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:22 am

You know, if you like playing video games to relax after along day and you have to rely on 9 other people to play along, it is time to switch over to singleplayer games.

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Re: Coalition of Cucks (MOBA Sperg)

Post by CIANIgger » Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:52 pm

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:22 am
You know, if you like playing video games to relax after along day and you have to rely on 9 other people to play along, it is time to switch over to singleplayer games.
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Re: Coalition of Cucks (MOBA Sperg)

Post by Guest » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:38 pm

Brad posing as Chillock the black nazi muslim christian nicknamed harrythebarry wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:34 pm
You need to pray you dont have an idiot or troll on the team or thats 20 mins wasted from the start.
The moment you get in you are chained to 4 other autists, its unavoidable. The game is designed that you carry 1vs9.

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Re: Coalition of Cucks (MOBA Sperg)

Post by CIANIgger » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:17 pm

Guest wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:38 pm
Brad posing as Chillock the black nazi muslim christian nicknamed harrythebarry wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:34 pm
You need to pray you dont have an idiot or troll on the team or thats 20 mins wasted from the start.
The moment you get in you are chained to 4 other autists, its unavoidable. The game is designed that you carry 1vs9.
Precisely. So why not just win if you got good people and troll the bad ones? :D
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Re: Coalition of Cucks (MOBA Sperg)

Post by Kugelfisch » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:28 pm

The genre is too stat-based and way too rigid. The games are just aping DOTA instead of coming up with something actually unique. For any change in the meta there's pretty much one optimal team composition, one optimal build, one optimal timing to do stuff. Give or take, that boils down to games being more or less the same until the next big update that only changes stuff for the sake of changing things.
What MOBAs really need is some hard rule-breaking. When you make a game, always at least take a look at Magic the Gathering. Every single rule in the game can be broken. You can't break a single rule in MOBAs or only bend one very slightly. I think the genre needs that. It needs some serious possibility for cheese, some real game-changers. There's zero creativity in the moment to moment gameplay and that results in massive frustration because everyone has to follow the game plan almost all of the time and everyone knows it. If one player goofs of for a moment the game is pretty much over but can drag out real badly.

Why are the minions so boring? Why so strictly of a certain type and of a certain volume? Why can't one make more choices? Towers are super boring as well. Why no upgrading them or having a choice to alter their type, maybe to counter some specific type of minion? Why can't one do more with the jungle creeps other than kill them for a buff or gold or XP? How about recruiting them?
The rules are sooo fucking rigid! There's already a hard lack of skill required, you'd need to add choices at least to make games more variable.
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Re: Coalition of Cucks (MOBA Sperg)

Post by CIANIgger » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:53 pm

DOTA has confusing stats to boot. It's not at all clear how to build heroes imo. You just follow recommended items and that's that.

DOTA dies have some rule breaking with item builds because you can get a caster item with a useful active on a hero that would never otherwise use it, and counter something that's maybe countering you, but it's still very vague as far as stats go.

Also, Intellect heroes piss me off because stacking INT just ups their auto attack damage and not the damage of their magic based abilities.... wtf is that shit?
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Re: Coalition of Cucks (MOBA Sperg)

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:20 pm

The lack of innovation in this genre is hilarious. It's not fucking chess, guys. You're allowed to mix things up.
CIANIgger wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:53 pm
Also, Intellect heroes piss me off because stacking INT just ups their auto attack damage and not the damage of their magic based abilities.... wtf is that shit?
Isn't that how Warcraft 3 handled it? You primary stat only boosted your auto-attack damage, because the skill damage solely depends on skill level or something?

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Re: Coalition of Cucks (MOBA Sperg)

Post by Charlar » Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:15 pm

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:20 pm
The lack of innovation in this genre is hilarious. It's not fucking chess, guys. You're allowed to mix things up.
CIANIgger wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:53 pm
Also, Intellect heroes piss me off because stacking INT just ups their auto attack damage and not the damage of their magic based abilities.... wtf is that shit?
Isn't that how Warcraft 3 handled it? You primary stat only boosted your auto-attack damage, because the skill damage solely depends on skill level or something?
Yes it did, oh and i'm not touching any MOBA sine i think they wouldn't be fun
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Re: Coalition of Cucks (MOBA Sperg)

Post by CIANIgger » Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:48 pm

Charlar wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:15 pm
VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:20 pm
The lack of innovation in this genre is hilarious. It's not fucking chess, guys. You're allowed to mix things up.
CIANIgger wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:53 pm
Also, Intellect heroes piss me off because stacking INT just ups their auto attack damage and not the damage of their magic based abilities.... wtf is that shit?
Isn't that how Warcraft 3 handled it? You primary stat only boosted your auto-attack damage, because the skill damage solely depends on skill level or something?
Yes it did, oh and i'm not touching any MOBA sine i think they wouldn't be fun
Yes, that's how War3 dud hero units. Thing is, the level cap was lower and the items provided much smaller bonuses, and everything was still use able and had its place.

In Dota everyone just gets Black king bar and wades through cc.
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