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Is it true Kojima made the cutscenes in MGS4 so damn long because he was butthurt over 3 being called a shitty movie?
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But MGS3 had the best gameplay/cutscene ratio and a non-retarded plot. At any rate, I blame the crappy storytelling of the later MGS games on Kojima firing his co-writer. MGS4 was when the series went full retard. Say what you will about MGS2, but at least that had some internal consistency.
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MGS4 was all over the place. Half the time I felt like I accidentally skipped a cutscene and was missing something.
And they needed to cancel the whole thing instead of just pursuing the idea further without him why exactly?Guest wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:36 amIt's not like Silent Hills renewed interest in the franchise or anything.
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Nigga, everything you said was wrong. Including that opinions can be right or wrong.Kugelfisch wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:03 amKeith, pretty much everything you said was flat out wrong
If MGS3 sold 'poorly' (if you call selling 3.6 million copies at ~$60 each selling 'poorly') it was for three reasons:Kugelfisch wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:03 amA sequel to a successful game almost always sells well, regardless of it's quality. MGS3 selling poorly was a direct result of MGS2 being shit.
- It was a prequel. It had no bearing on the main story, offered no conclusion on the main story and was therefore non-essential (I initially skipped it for this reason)
- It was a late stage title. Late stage titles always undersell. For examples see: Super Metroid, Conker's Bad Fur Day, The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (which had comparable sales to MGS3, you're not claiming everyone hated Ocarina), etc.
- The original Snake Eater had shitty camera that didn't get fixed until Konami put out the improved version a year later
Show proof of this. Show a single shred of evidence that Kojima ever went over budget on any MGS game prior to MGSV. I'll wait.Kugelfisch wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:03 amKojima would always take longer and more money than expected.
Kugelfisch wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:03 amKonami firing him was the best decision the company ever made.
He wasn't fired, he quit, and that's your opinion. In my opinion, forcing him out was especially retarded now that they're desperately trying to get back into vidya after their failed Pachinko venture and have alienated pretty much all the top-tier talent they once had.
Because they wanted to change direction completely. Vidya development in general was more money than they wanted to spend. They made a mobile game in 2009 that netted them millions of dollars despite not even spending a million dollars on its development, and from that point forward decided they would never ever spend vast amounts of money on developing anything ever again. This is why they settled on the bloody Pachinko machines.Kugelfisch wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:31 amAnd they needed to cancel the whole thing instead of just pursuing the idea further without him why exactly?
Kugelfisch wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:05 amImagine spending a billion US dollars to be a loser. Could've watched animu and be one for free.
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It's all pretty nebulous, but it seems pretty obvious to me that Kojima left Konami against his will. Most game developers don't cut out the final missions from their game and then slap the half-finished cutscenes from that mission on a bonus disc.Keith Chegwin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:43 am
He wasn't fired, he quit, and that's your opinion. In my opinion, forcing him out was especially retarded now that they're desperately trying to get back into vidya after their failed Pachinko venture and have alienated pretty much all the top-tier talent they once had.
Their pachinko/slot machine division has actually existed for decades now though. They made pachisuro machines out of all their IPs from Contra to Mystical Ninja. It's just that the MGS3 slot machine caught more media attention from the west due to the poor timing of the announcement.Because they wanted to change direction completely. Vidya development in general was more money than they wanted to spend. They made a mobile game in 2009 that netted them millions of dollars despite not even spending a million dollars on its development, and from that point forward decided they would never ever spend vast amounts of money on developing anything ever again. This is why they settled on the bloody Pachinko machines.
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Guest wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:48 amIt's all pretty nebulous, but it seems pretty obvious to me that Kojima left Konami against his will. Most game developers don't cut out the final missions from their game and then slap the half-finished cutscenes from that mission on a bonus disc.
I said 'forced out' because he was obviously bullied into quitting. I think it was The Nikkei that reported Kojima was physically separated from his team (his office was separated by lift from Kojima Productions and he couldn't go down and physically monitor them or consult with them, so he had to meet with them outside of work)
This is true, but an onslaught of Pachislot machines based on Castlevania, Metal Gear, I think there were others, coupled with the fact that between 2014 and 2018 Konami put out/is putting out about two games a year when they'd previously put out far more, is what led western observers to conclude that they are essentially abandoning the video game side of the business to focus on the pachinko.Guest wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:48 amTheir pachinko/slot machine division has actually existed for decades now though. They made pachisuro machines out of all their IPs from Contra to Mystical Ninja. It's just that the MGS3 slot machine caught more media attention from the west due to the poor timing of the announcement.
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Taking longer and more money for all his shit is what Konami said themselves. You'll likely not take their word for it anyway.
The company made pretty much exclusively terrible decisions in the last five years at least. Giving Kojima the boot wasn't one of them. You'd need Kojima for one thing and one thing only, to make a MGS. He didn't really want to make those games anymore for a long time.
Cancelling Silent Hills was retarded. Wanting to get out of vidya was retarded. Killing off big series or letting them rot in IP hell was retarded. Then again, it's a Japanese vidya company. They are ALL retarded most of the time. They likely took a look at SEGA doing better than ever and Nintendo making real good money with Pokémon Go and thinking that pachinco and mobile would be the future. Short-sightes business decisions are the lifeblood of Nipland corporations.
The company made pretty much exclusively terrible decisions in the last five years at least. Giving Kojima the boot wasn't one of them. You'd need Kojima for one thing and one thing only, to make a MGS. He didn't really want to make those games anymore for a long time.
Cancelling Silent Hills was retarded. Wanting to get out of vidya was retarded. Killing off big series or letting them rot in IP hell was retarded. Then again, it's a Japanese vidya company. They are ALL retarded most of the time. They likely took a look at SEGA doing better than ever and Nintendo making real good money with Pokémon Go and thinking that pachinco and mobile would be the future. Short-sightes business decisions are the lifeblood of Nipland corporations.
Opinions can absolutely be wrong. There's such a thing as an unqualified opinion.Keith Chegwin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:43 amNigga, everything you said was wrong. Including that opinions can be right or wrong.Kugelfisch wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:03 amKeith, pretty much everything you said was flat out wrong
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I strongly disagreeKugelfisch wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:13 amOpinions can absolutely be wrong. There's such a thing as an unqualified opinion.
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On what basis? That's an unqualified opinion, nigger. If your opinion derives from false information or just plain ignorance your opinion can be safely discarded. What, you're going to tell me Spoony's opinions are somehow valid?Charlar wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:29 amI strongly disagreeKugelfisch wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:13 amOpinions can absolutely be wrong. There's such a thing as an unqualified opinion.
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