Liar Revealed wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:59 am
Guest wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:18 pm
Snoke gets chopped up like another gay bitch. You learn nothing about him, his motivations--nothing.
Of course I'm pissed off at cis-males Han and Luke getting killed off so that the franchise can be handed of to some stuck-up Brit bitch that openly says she doesn't want to be there.
But this is almost as bad. Here's your big bad guy! Oh wait, he's dead.
Like, ANY of the fan theories are better than, "He was just some guy."
If this was a different forum, some fanboy would jump in here and tell me how this was all explained in some comic book.
Unless they're reserving his origins/planning to bring him back as a ghost in Ep.9, some books, or future trilogies, Snoke ultimately feels wasted now. Aside from being the "Sheev 2.0" stand-in and Kylo's mentor, his inclusion was mostly pointless and there was no buildup for his character development ever. He just straight up gets Darth Maul'd by an easily preventable death that he could've effortlessly foreseen coming considering he's an ancient master of the dark side and all that, so you'd think he'd be prepared for a betrayal in advance. He doesn't come close to being as menacing as Sheev was despite how much he taunted Rey and Kylo. It was just a cheap way of setting up Kylo Ren as the de facto "true" main antagonist of the new trilogy. Now, Kylo's either gonna get killed by "le perfection of all things in the universe" Rey herself or they'll just straight up rip off Vader's redemption from Ep. 6 through Kylo sacrificing himself for the greater good against something or whatever. This all sounds so overwhelmingly lame and predictable.
I'd like to see how the Rey defenders will try to sugarcoat it this time. For all their intents on trying to back up this shit character as "SHE'S NOT A MARY SUE! SHE'S NOT A MARY SUE! SHE'S NOT A MARY SUE!", the film itself
blatantly admits that she doesn't need any advanced training or knowledge since "she knows everything already." She's a Mary Sue to the core now. It's official canon. The criticizers were right.
Also, Force Ghosts can apparently affect the physical world now (regardless of what the old EU established), and how does Yoda's puppet somehow look even worse?