sigh wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:17 pm
Liar Revealed wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:36 pm
The original Dragon Ball was great. It had a sense of humor. I still like the "Z" portion up until the Majin Boo arc. That chapter dragged on forever and seemed pointless.
I think Toei realized that the original was better than Z and that's why they tried to go backwards, which they shouldn't have done, and gave us GT. Going backwards, making characters weaker, is incredibly frustrating to watch.
I liked that Super tried to go forward. But there's not a lot left to do with these characters that hasn't been done already. So we're just going to get the gang fighting dull aliens villains from dimension Asspull from now until eternity.
When I was watching DBZ for the first time I stopped watching after the Great Saiyaman arc and at the beginning of the 25th world martial arts tournament. I returned to it in high school and watched the Buu saga and GT and I still could find the buu saga kind of entertaining, not so much for GT. Beforehand I only heard or read stuff about GT, and ideas seemed ok on paper, but the execution was shit.
Super is strange for every interesting decision they make, they immediately counter it with something indefinitely more stupid.
- new type of powerup that requires a different type of KI, that could possibly be mastered by other fighters rendering them more useful to the story => canonize Super Saiyan recolors the whole rainbow (red, blue , bluer green, pink)
- whole multiverse of possibilities, a whole 11 new universes to explore => make a tournament arc that will feature two thirds of the strongest so we will never need to explore those universes and remove them afterwards.
- introduce female saiyans => don't introduce them as full mastered super saiyans, but as frieza-tier prodigies that master the form in mere seconds after knowing about it, fight on par with martial arts masters and to top it all off make the more dyke one go on Broly-level tism fits when she gets jealous.
Liar Revealed wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:28 am
I guess this goes here as Failous doesn't have his own thread. He pronounced the DBZ character Oob's name in a stupid katakana weeb way "Ubu". People corrected him and he got pissy.
Generally he seemed rather bored during this one, like he really didn't want to make these any more.
My summary opinion on all the arcs:
Dragon Ball/Kid Goku stuff was totally fine, whatever.
Saiyan Saga was breddy gud, lots of twists and some high stakes.
Frieza saga was ok. It went on too long and was the start of DBZ's stereotype of overly long powerup fests. "This isn't even my final form" etc. Lots of shitty characters like Dodoria and the Ginyu Fucks. Alternate planet dragon balls was a shitty asspull to bring back characters they had established couldn't be revived IIRC.
Androids saga was ok. I like future trunks and the terminator timeline shit. I liked how fucked the future was, and it was satisfying to see trunks return to his future at the end and kill everything. Androids 17 and 18 were ok characters. Not too much bullshit powering up IIRC.
Cell Games were not good. Too much bullshit powering up and characters being retards just so Cell wouldn't die and could power up more. Too many characters were written out of the story by this point. The power creep had gotten so bad that a pimple off of Cell's body could beat everyone except Gohan, because muh main character shounen jump
Buu Saga was fucking awful. Characters suddenly act way out of character and everyone is retarded for no raisin. The only part of this story that I liked was Mr. Satan befriending Buu and his puppy. The entire storyline is one huge asspull for how come characters can keep powering up infinitely. The only good new character imo is Videl but it's kind of bullshit she can be in combat doing things while the entire old human cast have been replaced. You're telling me some thot Gohan likes can be super saiyan-tier, but Krillin, Piccolo, Tien and Yamcha can't. Even though they've been training for years before she was born. GG
I didn't read/watch anything after this because the mango stops here and I was sick of dragon ball by that point.