Dead Horse Interchange

Video games should never have been treated as an ar/utisted medium. Most of the artsy-farsty games are a slog to play. Any video game story that "breaks new ground" is only bringing shit that happens in literatue or film into the electronic toy medium for children. Suda got his start on the Fire Pro Wrestling franchise, the first game he designed had the shock ending where the MC sudoku's because of his depression.

Apparently, Mikami will never do more than just being a producer in games anymore, his last hands-on job with games was TEW1. No more Vanquish or God Hand successors. In case you're wondering why TEW2 is so different, it's because the Bethesda guy that did the DLCs for TEW1 is in charge of the game.

As for "auter" videogame makers, there's a reason they are usually stuck with small studios like Grasshopper, Gaia Studios, Cavia etc. Not everybody can have Kojima's luck I guess. There is a market, sure. But companies(and the audience due to hype culture) fail to recognise the other guys in the equation that help them. For example, those who say that Nier Automata is shit compared to Nier, well...that's what happens when Takuya Iwasaki is absent. They need someone to hold their inner-George Lucas in place.

Props for mentioning SWERY, the guy seems to slowly be coming back to the industry. D4 was pretty good but since I'm a weeb, I have to go with his contributions for Lord of Apocalypse.

Poonoo wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:08 am

The reason I think Suda went to shit is that is seems like most of his games are the same hack and slash shit lately. No More Heroes, Killer is Dead and Lollipop Chainsaw had similar hack and slash gameplay, when you compare it to Killer7 which is so unique in it's gameplay the other stuff seems so uninspired and unoriginal by comparison. That and he embraced the oh-so-wacky shit way too much until Killer Is Dead which at least looks like he realised it was getting lame.

That's probably Grasshopper's fault more than Suda's. After No More Heroes, he took a break from game designing until Killer is Dead(and when he tried to design Shadows with Mikami). NMH2, Lolipop and the upcoming NMH3 don't have him in something beyond a producer or director it seems. Same with Let it Die because he apparently abandoned Lily Bergamo to work with Katsuhiro Otomo(the guy who made Akira) in making Ranko Tsukigime's Longest Day that was part of the whole Short Peace collab.

rabidtictac wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:13 am

I almost mentioned swery. I think he's the guy who made Nier, right?

Nope, that's Yoko Taro. The guy with the dumb mask. He's a hack fraud that only knows how to write a single story with the entire twist being "Everyone and everything is shit". Oh and ripping off Berserk.
SWERY makes weird but good weird stuff. Very much along the lines of, no surprise there, Twin Peaks. Deadly Premonition is basically a Twin Peaks fanfic.
If you haven't played D4, you can easily skip that and just watch a LP of it.

The thing both guys have in common is that their games are just not good games. They gameplay is just so fucking lacklustre.

After watching the Psycho franchise, I'm gonna have to say Norman Bates. Yes, he's iconic and all, but that's only from the first movie, where he's mainly just a mystery. I'm talking about the aged Norman that the rest of the series actually focuses on.

TOBE FAIR, 99% of the public have never even heard of those sequels or have forgotten them. I forgot they existed until you brought them up a few weeks ago. Weren't they made-for-cable movies or something?

The only thing that stuck with the public concious was that shot-for-shot remake, and that's mainly because of the concept of a shot-for-shot remake.

Liar Revealed wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:31 pm

TOBE FAIR, 99% of the public have never even heard of those sequels or have forgotten them. I forgot they existed until you brought them up a few weeks ago. Weren't they made-for-cable movies or something?

The first two had theatrical releases(Ebert reviewed them). The fourth was made-for-cable(but that barely had Perkins anyway).

The book had two sequels of its own but who the fuck reads books?

Guest wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:37 pm

The book had two sequels of its own but who the fuck reads books?

Me

Charlar wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:59 pm

Guest wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:37 pm

The book had two sequels of its own but who the fuck reads books?

Me