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Re: China

Post by Jiangshi » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:40 am

Also keep in mind that the PRC does not only import a huge amount of their food but also needs to import a huge amount of the fertilizers they need to produce their own food. If the PRC was subjected to the same sanctions as the Russian Federation, they would have a brutal famine with ridiculous amounts of people starving to death within a few months. But then again maybe the CCP sees such a crisis as an opportunity to purge the country of old people to be cannibalized.

Regarding the Kuomintang issue (and pan blue coalition in general) it should be mentioned that the KMT didn't just start aligning with the CCP randomly but was actually subverted over an extended period of time, in part through relations with the the CCP approved mainland KMT wing.

Judging from the blues i talked to, their opinion is less that the PRC isn't really communist anymore (on the contrary, they very much consider the CCP, even under Deng, Jiang, Hu and Xi, hardcore commie bastards) but more that in line with their 2 core beliefs (anti-communism and nationalism), the country should re-unify first (because that is agreed upon by the blues and reds and therefore easy to accomplish) so they can be anti-CCP later. The technical proposition of "one country two systems" isn't even meant in the same way as with HK but in a way where Taiwan literally still have their independent military and independent political system but are internationally represented together with the mainland as one country. Naturally, this is a retarded idea because the CCP would have a disproportionate amount of representation on every single issue and an invasion by the PLA would have to be considered as an internal crackdown rather than a war of aggression internationally then.

What really makes me cringe was when the KMT supported the crackdown on Hong Kong because the Hong Kongers were "yelling anti China slogans" and "attacking the police", with some even daring to wave british Hong Kong flags. This pretty much shows the inconsistency in the KMTs own logic. Hong Kong is a special administrative region of the PRC. The KMT does not even officially recognize the PRC as a sovereign country, which means they should technically consider any executive organ including the police of the PRC as warlords, gangs or terrorists with no formal legitimacy, which would make attacking them okay. But in reality the KMT just pay anti-communism lipservice while being closet tankies. The only thing that kinda changed over the years is that the CCP turned away from the whole comintern philosophy and started aligning more with the KMTs thinly veiled han-supremacist views.

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Re: China

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:39 am

>thinking a union with mainland China will still leave you in charge of anything that could be used to destroy the CCP from within
The closest you guys will ever get to a CCP member is when they come as spectators for your execution :roll:
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Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:40 am
But then again maybe the CCP sees such a crisis as an opportunity to purge the country of old people to be cannibalized.
Wouldn't be the first time they tried to off their old people. When they suddenly lifted all COVID restrictions it just so happened that the CCP did little to nothing to get the elderly vaxxed.
Regarding the Kuomintang issue (and pan blue coalition in general) it should be mentioned that the KMT didn't just start aligning with the CCP randomly but was actually subverted over an extended period of time, in part through relations with the the CCP approved mainland KMT wing.
"CCP approved" of course being tantamount to "CCP-run".
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Re: China

Post by Jiangshi » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:00 pm

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:39 am
>thinking a union with mainland China will still leave you in charge of anything that could be used to destroy the CCP from within
The closest you guys will ever get to a CCP member is when they come as spectators for your execution :roll:
They (the admittedly very few KMT retards who are not CCP psyops but true believers) probably have the idea that because the PLA is an absolute clown show, they could slowly reclaim the mainland like during the northern expedition under Chiang. What they fail to realize is that Taiwan consists of a bunch of pacifist soyboys who are just as pathetic (but significantly smaller in numbers) than the weak spoiled single children in the PLA. I must admit a war between the two on the chinese mainland would probably lead to many funny videoclip compilations of incompetent soldiers blowing themselves up trying to throw grenades.
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Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:39 am
Jiangshi wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:40 am
But then again maybe the CCP sees such a crisis as an opportunity to purge the country of old people to be cannibalized.
Wouldn't be the first time they tried to off their old people. When they suddenly lifted all COVID restrictions it just so happened that the CCP did little to nothing to get the elderly vaxxed.
Since that jap professor Yusuke Narita already proposed mandatory seppuku for old people as a solution for the overaging population in Japan, i think the CCP will soon follow the vision and turn their elders into Soylent Green.
VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:39 am
Regarding the Kuomintang issue (and pan blue coalition in general) it should be mentioned that the KMT didn't just start aligning with the CCP randomly but was actually subverted over an extended period of time, in part through relations with the the CCP approved mainland KMT wing.
"CCP approved" of course being tantamount to "CCP-run".
Not even the CCP is trying to fool people into believing otherwise. It is very clearly written into law that minor parties must accept the CCP in a "leading role" in order to be allowed to exist.

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Re: China

Post by RAPEMAN » Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:59 am

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Re: China

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:05 pm

They've been getting ready before this minister was even born.
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Re: China

Post by RAPEMAN » Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:31 pm

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:05 pm
They've been getting ready before this minister was even born.
But China knows it can get away with it under Biden. If the Dems were smart (ha!) they would have started diversifying their offshore manufacturing to other nations with cheap labour so China doesn't have the power to sanction us if they want to escalate the situation and to also get off their cock as well.
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Re: China

Post by Le Redditeur » Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:40 pm

The sanction train goes both ways. China is a huge net importer of food and energy, and >muh Russia can't supply them with both. Their shipping lanes are also easy to block and under direct control of their adversaries. I don't see that sort of move ending well for them, which presents a whole bag of other problems (like desperation nukes being thrown dilly dally)
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If the Dems were smart (ha!) they would have started diversifying their offshore manufacturing to other nations with cheap labour so China doesn't have the power to sanction us if they want to escalate the situation and to also get off their cock as well.
That process already started; manufacturers have already started moving to places like Cambodia, Vietnam and India. But it will take a long ass time (and money) for a significant part of it to be moved. And some cronies like Apple will never leave Chinese soil.

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Re: China

Post by Kugelfisch » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:01 pm

Can shit finally escalate? I'm running out of ink and paper over here!
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Re: China

Post by ebin namefag » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:10 pm

Le Redditeur wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:40 pm
The sanction train goes both ways. China is a huge net importer of food
It would be a shame if the Chinese turned to cannibalism (again).
A damn shame.
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Re: China

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:49 pm

At least they'd finally find a good use for all dem Uyghurs.
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