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Re: STD

Post by Kugelfisch » Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:30 pm

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'They wouldn't take drugs in the future', 'there wouldn't be any religion in the future', 'there wouldn't be petty interpersonal conflicts between co-workers in the future', 'men would sometimes wear dresses in the future' are all things he did/said
The Enterprise in TNG has a bar and drinks are often replicated. Religion is very much still alive in the universe, even among humans on colonies. There is plenty of petty bitching goin on. Ryker only wore a "dress" to that one female planet to fuck bitches.
Seems like he didn't follow his own vision of the future. :lol:
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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:33 pm

And for an enlightened and progressive lot, they sure love going retro, enjoying Sherklock Holmes and 20th century baseball stars.
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Re: STD

Post by Keith Chegwin » Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:40 am

Kugelfisch wrote:
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The Enterprise in TNG has a bar and drinks are often replicated. Religion is very much still alive in the universe, even among humans on colonies. There is plenty of petty bitching goin on. Ryker only wore a "dress" to that one female planet to fuck bitches.
Seems like he didn't follow his own vision of the future. :lol:
Apart from the alcohol, which Roddenberry apparently doesn't consider a drug or at least a hard drug, all those things were either implemented or gotten rid of when Roddenberry lost control of TNG.
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Re: STD

Post by Kugelfisch » Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:25 pm

So what you're saying is that he got cucked by the TV stations. Good.
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Post by da PAC Nigguh » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:35 pm

Roddenberry sucked. Know why TNG got exponentially better after season 2? Because that's when he lost creative control.
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Post by Liar Revealed » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:45 pm

The only time that Gene had full control was Star Trek: The Motion Picture and The Next Generation Seasons 1-2.
Sometimes these studio/network execs exist for a reason.
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Re: STD

Post by rabidtictac » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:32 pm

da PAC Nigguh wrote:
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Roddenberry sucked. Know why TNG got exponentially better after season 2? Because that's when he lost creative control.
Trek as a whole got better when he lost control. DS9 had tons of shit in it that didn't fit his liberal utopian vision of the future.
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Post by Keith Chegwin » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:57 pm

I've always said that Star Trek was good in spite of, not because of, Roddenberry.

I liked The Cage though.
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Post by Cuckara » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:46 pm

Roddenberry is pretty much the George Lucas of Star Trek. Although Roddenberry never made an Attack of the Clones tier mess.

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Re: STD

Post by Keith Chegwin » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:08 am

Doesn't TMP count? Fuck, doesn't any Wesley episode count?
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